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  • 13th August 2019 at 8:29 am #25385
    Anonymous

      Hi Everyone

      I have a 1939 French Built 11BL and I now need a new carburettor, I want to make sure that I purchase the correct one, I have 3 alternative  Solex carbs listed, can anyone help with finding out which one is correct. I have the long cylindrical air cleaner

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      thanks Alan

      15th August 2019 at 9:58 am #25401
      Bernie
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        Alan,

        The carb on your car is a 35FAIE.  This is the model shown in the illustrations on plate 21 in the workshop manual.   That reference is probably marked at the top on one side.

        It has a 2-part body and the top is tapped to accept the two fixing screws for the air cleaner/silencer “frog” connector.

        B………………

         

        16th August 2019 at 2:02 pm #25402
        Anonymous

          Hi

          A bit of an update thank you for the information, the traction is going well but the carburettor has excessive wear in the butterfly spindle and the car will not idle. As you say the Traction is fitted with a Solex 35 FAIE . What does the “E” stand for, I have seen Solex 35FAI for sale? Frassens list the correct carb as being a Solex 35 FPAI another option may be Solex 35FATIP but that I think it is an outside chance any information would be a help and information on carbs for sale also

          regards

          Alan

          16th August 2019 at 6:59 pm #25405
          David Faulkner
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            Alan you could get it professionally rebuilt including the spindle rebushed etc. somewhere like the Carburettor Hospital http://www.carburettorspecialists.com/  others may be available 🙂

            To help the search it’s listed as fitted to some other cars as well so you could try the individual mark clubs for more info/repair kits:

            Solex 35FAIE; 35RFAIE

            As fitted to:

            Bedford WD: OW, OX, OY, OXA, OXD, OXC 1940-1947 35RFAIE

            Bedford QL3 FWD 1940-1947 35RFAIE

            Citroen Light 15 1946-49 35FAIE

            Morris Commercial 5 Ton 4 Cyl 1945-53 35FAIE

            Shelvoke & Drewry Freighter 3.6 Litre 1947-1952 35RFAIE

            Shelvoke & Drewry Fork Lift 1952-1967 35RFAIE

            Standard 14HP Sedan 1946-48 35FAIE

            Triumph  18TR Roadster 1946-1949 35FAIE

            Triumph 18T Saloon 1947-1949 35FAIE

            EDIT: there is a French discussion online Here: http://forumgmt.fr/viewtopic.php?id=9907 if you open in Google then right click translate to English if your French is like mine it does say in 1 post “Nota Bene: Ma 11B 1939 is equipped with a carburetor Solex 35 FATIP. (But he still misses to this day, the intake muffler ref 480342 type bazooka)”

            Good luck with the research.

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            16th August 2019 at 7:50 pm #25407
            Anonymous

              Hi David

              Thank You for the information could you let me know what vehicles the Solex 30FPAI was fitted to as I think that is the correct one but I have the “bazooka” type air filter, It does get complicated

              Thanks

              Alan

              17th August 2019 at 6:42 am #25408
              Chris
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                Apparently this place (Carburetter Exchange) in Leighton Buzzard is run by an ex-Solex employee

                http://www.carbex.demon.co.uk/index.html

                Solex were taken over by Zenith – and Burlen supply parts for Zeniths and Solex. http://www.zenithcarb.co.uk

                Either of those could probably break the code.

                Chris

                17th August 2019 at 6:45 am #25409
                Chris
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                  I think the T in FATIP means it has a temperature controlled choke.

                  Chris

                  17th August 2019 at 8:46 am #25411
                  David Faulkner
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                    You could be right Chris, James Geddes had a pre war Normale in his workshop (Traction Repairs) and that had a Solex fitted with a temperature controlled choke.  He might have a picture of it Alan if you contact him.

                    19th August 2019 at 10:13 pm #25417
                    Bernie
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                      Folks,

                      I have unearthed the following table explaining the letter codes for Solex Carb Identifications:

                      A –          Bi-Starter (Manually Operated)                                 IH –         Semi-Down Draught Carb. 45o

                      AT –        Progressive Thermostarter (Combination of         N –          Non-Spillable

                      Manually and Thermally Operated)                          O –        Zero Starter (Manually Operated)

                      B –          B Type Carburettor                                                       OS          Offset 0o F Strangler

                      C –          Monobloc                                                                       P –          Pump

                      D –          Right Hand Carburettor                                               R –          Governor

                      E –          Economy Device                                                            S –           Self Starter

                      F –           Die Cast                                                                           T –          Thermostarter (Thermally Operated)

                      G –          Left Hand Carburettor                                                 V –          Vertical Carburettor

                      H –          Horizontal Carburettor                                                W –         Waterproof

                      I –           Down-Draught Carburettor                                        X –          Gas Carburettor

                      L –           Bronze Carburettor or Bronze Throttle Body        Z –          Dust Proof

                      B………….

                       

                      20th August 2019 at 10:22 am #25427
                      Alistair
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                        The members section has all this under the Solex Instruction manual booklet.

                        Does anyone look at these pages??

                        Happy tuning!

                        Alistair

                        20th August 2019 at 10:52 am #25428
                        Bernie
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                          I do – That is where I got it from!

                          B……….

                          20th August 2019 at 12:09 pm #25429
                          Alistair
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                            That’s two people then!!

                            20th August 2019 at 8:31 pm #25433
                            Larry Lewis
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                              Yes, but what is a “B” type carb? What does it refer to?

                              20th August 2019 at 11:34 pm #25434
                              Alistair
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                                Maybe a dual port carb as opposed to a simple carb?? Just a thought.

                                21st August 2019 at 3:19 pm #25436
                                Larry Lewis
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                                  I don’t think so- our later Tractions have a 32PBIC, Pump, B type, Downdraft, Monobloc. I assume P means the accelerator pump. But “B type” doesn’t tell me anything. My 1960 Saab has a similar carb but without an accelerator pump called a 40AI. No P designation- its’ similar to the 32PBIC but with a blank plate where the pump would be.

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