’55 11BN in Vancouver

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  • #4195
    Anonymous

      Hi,

      Another guy who is happy go find an English-language Traction forum. Hope to see some of the extensive UK knowledge base transferred in here once the forum gets to be more well known. I bought my car in January and shipped it from San Diego to Vancouver. I don’t have much history on the car other than it spent the last decade or two in Texas, Arizona, and California, which has helped to keep it from getting rusty. All wiring has to be completely replaced, and I’m hoping it will driveable by July. A couple of photos:

      The day it arrived.

      As it sits…

      Bruce

      #4707
      Anonymous

        I See that the front left (looking at the photograph) has a “White Wall” tyre on the inside.
        I bought 3 of these recently.
        Does any one else have a Michelin 165 x 400 that has a white wall on one side of the tyre?
        The right hand tyre appears to be a standard tyre without a white wall (unless it’s on the outside).

        #4708
        Anonymous

          The tires are all ‘white walls’, but they are pretty ancient so unfortunately I have no suggestions for a current source. New tires are going on this week.

          #4709
          Anonymous

            Hi Fjord
            Interested to see there is another TOC member in BC. I am in Victoria on Vancouver Island and recently joined TOC – being a Brit who moved out here four years ago. I bought a Traction in June this year. It is a 1955 11B Familiale in midnight blue. The car was in very good shape and very original when I bought it – due to the kind attention of previous owner in Illinois in the US. The only planned item at present is to replace worn drive shafts with the more modern cv type this winter. I attach photo of the Traction at the Oak Bay Car show in Victoria this August – next to a friend’s 48 Dodge.
            Good luck with your project.

            #4711
            Anonymous

              Hi Canada Traction,

              It seems like there has been a veritable wave of Traction buying in the area lately. At the Vancouver French/Italian show this spring I spoke to another new owner who bought his 15 in October. There are at least two other Tractions in Vancouver that I know of.

              Your car looks very nice and I hope to see it in person some time. Unfortunately the local car scene, while decent, is nothing compared to the UK.

              Cheers.

              #4712
              Anonymous

                There’s a few in the Toronto area, at least 15 that I’m aware of, the oldest being a 39 11BL. In Montreal is a man I know who has 14 or 15 of the 15/6 hydraulics, including a Slough 6 restored by John Gillard, two custom made 15/6 roadsters, also a very early D and Ami. One of them is quite interesting, the gear shift is on the steering column and the original hole in the fascia is welded over, it also has headlights faired into the front wings and different, horizontal tail lights. Looking at it the work was obviously done a long time ago.

                There’s quite a few more in Quebec and every few years there is a party in September with live Django Reinhardt type music with a pig roast east of Montreal where the local classic club meets and Citroens are all in the front row. It’s held at an airport and the last time there was a vintage aircraft fly-in as well with a French-built Tiger Moth painted as a trainer for the French Navy. Interesting that, with its SEV and Ducellier equipment and an engine built by Renault.

                #4713
                Anonymous

                  I had not realised there were so many Tractions in Canada. I had been told there was one in Vancouver and probably a few in Quebec. Seems like there are many more. There are two here on the Island but they are in a sorry state parked at the back of an hotel carpark – I suspect they have been there for a long time quietly rusting away.
                  Peter

                  #4714
                  Anonymous

                    @Larry – you are indeed blessed in the East with Traction riches. I guess that explains why you have the special tools. I’ll have to see if I can arrange a trip out to coincide with a big gathering some time.

                    @Peter – I know of four working (or almost working in my case) Vancouver cars:
                    – a ’37 11B or BL in West Van that has been here for many years and is in very good condition
                    – a Commerciale in Vancouver that I haven’t seen, and that needs a starter, owned by the president of the local Citroen club
                    – a ’55? 15CV that was imported in October, in quite nice condition
                    – my ’55

                    No doubt there are a couple of others stashed away here and there around town. I’m always amazed to see what comes out of hiding for a show once a year.

                    I wonder if those derilict cars are available for parts. They look to have shinier bumpers than mine at the least.

                    #4715
                    Anonymous

                      Bruce
                      The cars are in very poor condition but some parts are probably ok. The interiors are shot but the tires look reasonable. Some parts have been removed from the engines I think. I will see if I can find out more and get back to you.
                      Peter

                      #4716
                      Anonymous

                        I’ve heard about those island Tractions, I wonder what’s the story? They look very restorable to me.

                        #4710
                        Anonymous

                          L Lewis and Bruce

                          The cars are owned by Pierre and Bev Koffel. Pierre is the chef and owner along with his wife Bev of the Deep Cove Chalet http://www.deepcovechalet.com/
                          I do not know them and have not met them but am told that the cars were purchased quite a while ago with the intention of restoring them. This did not happen and they were left at the back of the parking lot. I do not know the condition of the cars apart from a brief visual inspection. Both are in poorish condition – especially the interiors. There appear to some parts missing. One has an old BC plate from 1999 and the other s French plate. I am led to believe that an approach to buy for restoration might be met with more luck than a request to strip parts. I may try and pm you with a little more info,

                          Peter

                          #4717
                          Anonymous

                            So after 7 1/2 months my car is finally insured and back on the road! It passed the provincial inspection on the first attempt, which was a pleasant surprise. Of course now that it’s driving I’ll be starting a new to-do list, and I hope to go for a ride in a local sorted car or two to understand what is normal for these cars, and what needs to be on my list. So far:

                            – the fuel sender is out since it always reads 20 litres
                            – the transmission will eventually need some work as it pops out of 2nd gear under load and shudders noticeably when starting from rest in first gear.

                            Still, it’s very satisfying to be able to drive it after all this time. It’s also nice that the family really enjoys riding in it, since they aren’t always so enthusiastic about my cars.

                            #4718
                            Anonymous

                              @Fjord wrote:

                              So after 7 1/2 months my car is finally insured and back on the road! It passed the provincial inspection on the first attempt, which was a pleasant surprise. Of course now that it’s driving I’ll be starting a new to-do list, and I hope to go for a ride in a local sorted car or two to understand what is normal for these cars, and what needs to be on my list. So far:

                              – the fuel sender is out since it always reads 20 litres
                              – the transmission will eventually need some work as it pops out of 2nd gear under load and shudders noticeably when starting from rest in first gear.
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                              1. Mine does exactly the same so when I fuel up I always fill until the pump clicks out and reset the ‘trip’ to zero then I know I can go around 300 Kms before needing to re fuel with the knowledge that I have a decent reserve in there, but if you find the answer, I’m very interested in the solution.

                              2. Before considering taking the gearbox out, make sure that there is nothing fouling the gear linkage at both ends, it takes very little to stop it going fully home so can jump back out. The fuel filter on mine caused the same issue as did a marginally over long battery retaining strap 🙂

                              #4719
                              Anonymous

                                Congratulations getting the Traction on the road. A few observations: The fuel gauge lies on my car as well. I follow the OSL282 method and note litres and miles driven. I followed the TOC lubrication guide for gear linkages etc and also drained, flushed and refilled gearbox with Redline MT90 (GL4 type oil which saves synchro apparently) I am sure there are other equally as good oils available. The whole gearbox experience was improved. The only other thing I changed was to fit a heavier gauge cable from battery -ve to ground. Went for a no 1 gauge which improved the crank rate of starter. I am about to start on modern cv drive shafts next week!

                                #4720
                                Anonymous

                                  For popping out of gear, check the clutch lock on top of the gearbox, there should be a 1/4inch gap. I recommend the Red Line oils as well-good stuff!

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