Electric Power Steering on a Traction
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15th November 2014 at 6:49 pm #4272
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I’m not promoting this and have no connection with anyone mentioned in this post.
At the Classic Car show I was talking to David Ray of Metal Monkey Ltd who now supply and fit OOTO Electric Power Steering units for classic cars.
I know some members have had a similar system fitted however, Metal Monkey will custom fit for your car, not fit a generic product.
On the plus side they quoted £1,500 to supply and custom fit a unit, however they would need the car at their workshop in Somerton, Oxfordshire, OX25 6NB
16th November 2014 at 8:13 pm #5531……………..
16th November 2014 at 8:15 pm #5532…………..
18th November 2014 at 11:22 am #5533The EZ power sterring kit is €1250 so a little cheaper. It seemsvery easy to fit, going to start next week so will post photos.
18th November 2014 at 11:46 am #5534@tripyrenees wrote:
The EZ power sterring kit is €1250 so a little cheaper. It seems very easy to fit, going to start next week so will post photos.
Interesting. Please document the process for the rest of us 🙂
26th November 2014 at 9:26 am #5535I have started the initial installation of the EZ Power Steering system into my 1955 11B. This unit came as a kit from the company in Holland.
I will document the installed of the electronics etc at a later date but will start with the modification of the steering column.
Here is the new unit alongside the existing steering column. The idea is to cut the steering column and attach the new column adapter keeping the overall length the same.
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I placed the new adapter onto the end of the existing shaft and measured the internal length of the adapter – not sure why they cannot state this length in the manual, but always better to measure as well. This ended up as 70mm.
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Then I measured the overall length of the new unit plus the adapter and deducted the 70mm from this. Again, this could all be played out in the manual. This was a specific kit for the Traction.
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26th November 2014 at 9:31 am #5536Next was to double check all measurements and prepare to cut the original steering shaft……. gulp.
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The cut is made – does not really matter about being square etc as this end is shoved up the adapter never to be seen again. But I squared it off and cleaned it of course 😀
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The manual says to then place the adapter on the end and weld in place. I was not happy just welding around the base of the adapter, so I made three holes through the adapter, two of these I would fill with weld and the centre one I will place a pin through the steering shaft and adapter, belts and braces time.
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26th November 2014 at 9:33 am #5537Holes drilled
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And then the steering shaft inserted and the centre hole drilled through both
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Tapped in the centre pin leaving a millimetre either end to allow for the weld.
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26th November 2014 at 9:37 am #5538Fill in the weld holes with my Mig and also weld around the base of the adapter.
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Clean up the welds and give it a little polish on the wire wheel
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The shaft is now complete. The outer tube is also a complete replacement so the end fittings and supports need to be transferred over to the new tube. This I will fit now to the car but the rest I will leave until the inside of the car is ready to work on.
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26th November 2014 at 11:51 am #5539‘Gulps’ indeed 😮
You can’t beat ‘belts and braces’ either as you don’t want to be driving along with a steering wheel that turns, but doesn’t turn the wheels……
I was told that they didn’t supply a length to cut at so you could make your own choice and have the steering wheel further in, or out, if you liked, to suit your driving position better.
Personally, the original position is fine for me.
26th November 2014 at 1:07 pm #5540They could have at least given measurements of their unit though, some sort of technical drawing would have been useful.
I am glad I am doing this outside of the car though, it must be a struggle installing it under the dashboard.
15th February 2015 at 6:45 pm #5541So installed the system is pretty simple… if you know how. And this is the biggest problem with the instructions provided. The photos are too small, dark and try to orientate them was difficult.
First I installed the steering rack…. bad idea. Best to fits the steering column first (loosely) and then fit the steering rack onto the bottom of the steering column. There is more room to manoeuvre and wiggle it in place.
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Bolt it all up, remembering to put in place the rubber seals and anything else that is round and should be fitted as once these two are bolted together there is no way you can get them off again, without a few hours spare.
Make sure you lubricate the outer steering column so the rubber sheath at the base of the shaft can slide up a down as you need the outer shaft to push down out of the way while you bolt the motor system on.
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Then attach the motor side of the shaft onto the bottom half. Pull up the outer shaft to meat and bolt in place.
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15th February 2015 at 6:51 pm #5542The motor itself points upwards at about 1 o’clock and there is a twisted bracket that required two holes to be drilled in the lower shelf. This was the part that confused me as I didn’t know where the motor was to sit. One clarified with EZ power steering it all went in very easily.
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The control box is bolted on and the connectors are all pretty obvious where they go, i.e. they are all keyed so you can’t get it wrong.
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The main connections to the car are a decent earth, which I used a bolt to the side of the body which is now a common earth for lots of other things. A 10 watt supply which I connected to my fuse box and then a 35 amp supply which comes with an inline fuse and I took directly to my battery cutoff switch.
The potentiometer that adjusts the amount of assisted steering I tucked away under the shelf for now. I am will figure out how much adjustment is necessary and if used frequently I will mount it under the dash but for now I think it might be a click and forget type of adjustment.
So next it to fit the steering wheel and once the car is back on the road, Test it out 😀
9th October 2015 at 1:10 pm #5543Ian, this off topic, so sorry.
Who supplied the carpets? They look to be of excellent quality and fit!
Best, Norman9th October 2015 at 5:43 pm #5544They are nice, we saw them at Retro Mobile in Paris and ordered them on the spot. There are from Neo Retro in France.
http://www.neoretrofrance.com/v10/php/mod/idx000_sfa.php
Ian
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