1952 RHD Traction 11B on e bay

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  • #4577
    Anonymous

      Reg number JSV 530 on e bay classified price £13,750. In Brentwood. RHD.

      #7453
      Anonymous

        It’s a Slough built Big 15.

        #7454
        Anonymous

          I get confused, is a slough built big 15 the same shape as a 11bn French built? I knoe French and English cars have different trim and electrics but I assume body and drive train are the same?

          #7455
          Anonymous

            It’s been for sale a while but lacks any decent description/images.

            #7456
            Anonymous

              Baz, you are correct in what you say but rhd French Tractions do exist (I have a rhd 11BL). It is important to correctly name the model. RHD French Tractions are rare. In particular a rhd 11BN cabriolet came up for sale last year.

              #7457
              Anonymous

                I am new to these cars. Until I went and saw Paul’s car I never knew there were two body sizes.

                #7458
                Anonymous

                  @bazessex wrote:

                  Until I went and saw Paul’s car I never knew there were two body sizes.

                  There are more than 2 when you count in the Comercialle/Familiale and limousin (rare) which are longer again than a BN

                  #7459
                  Anonymous

                    ……

                    #7460
                    Anonymous

                      The Brits have confused it a little with the use of “15” when there is already the 15 six here in France.

                      But normal sizes for us mortals are the normal (11B) and the leg ere (11BL). The second being slightly less wide and a little shorter, basically the female version of the mans 11B…… lol….just ducking off now 🙂

                      #7461
                      Anonymous

                        @Den Hewitt wrote:

                        A good book to buy Baz is Citroen Traction Avant by Jon Pressnell. It is in English

                        I have the book! Still get confused.

                        #7462
                        Anonymous

                          The English ones are called “15s” because that is the taxable horsepower. The French ones are “11s” or “15s” because that is their taxable horsepower, measured differently from the English system. The French term of CV is Cheval Vapeur which translates to “Steam Horse”- charming, ain’t it? 11s are either Berline Legere or Berline Normale, but the name for a Normale is just B, not BN as opposed to the BL. Though some countries do call it a BN. Don’t know which ones, maybe Switzerland. I’ve heard that the long wheelbase cars are called 11C in the case of the Commerciale, but the Familiale is not called an 11F. I could be wrong about that. Some countries, I think Denmark call the B the “Large.” Anyone want to confuse some more, please step in. :mrgreen:

                          #7463
                          Anonymous

                            @L.Lewis wrote:

                            The English ones are called “15s” because that is the taxable horsepower. The French ones are “11s” or “15s” because that is their taxable horsepower, measured differently from the English system. The French term of CV is Cheval Vapeur which translates to “Steam Horse”- charming, ain’t it? 11s are either Berline Legere or Berline Normale, but the name for a Normale is just B, not BN as opposed to the BL. Though some countries do call it a BN. Don’t know which ones, maybe Switzerland. I’ve heard that the long wheelbase cars are called 11C in the case of the Commerciale, but the Familiale is not called an 11F. I could be wrong about that. Some countries, I think Denmark call the B the “Large.” Anyone want to confuse some more, please step in. :mrgreen:

                            I am constantly confused!

                            #7464
                            Anonymous

                              But what about the 7’s…..

                              😆 😆

                              Mine is a ’55 11B and I paid 11 x €17 in Tax when I registered it which is a 50% reduction over a car up to 10 years old (€34 per fiscal power).

                              I recently paid €68 in tax for my Renault 4CV (clue is in the name, although secretly with the new engine it has 5CV 😮 )

                              Wasn’t it so much easier in the old days for naming cars…. No berlingo cactus crossover back then 🙂

                              #7465
                              Anonymous

                                The latests ICCCR mentioned the Cheval Vapour too.

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                                1CV

                                In the world of French classics and even more within the Citroën range, denomination of cars depending on their tax horsepower or Cheval Vapeur is quite common. The 7, 11, 15 and of course the 2CV are legendary. During this years 16th Citroën World Meeting we will be host to a veritable 1CV. Not a dressed down Tin Snail, no tax evasion, but a truly modern version of an old fashioned ‘Shay’.

                                Erik van Bronswijk from Nijmegen cut an abandoned Traction Avant in half. Lost the ‘Traction’ and the ‘Avant’ bits in one single move, but still knew how to find a good cause for the sad remains. Completely within André Citroëns original philosophy he horsed the cart. Literally. So don’t be surprised if amongst the chatter of numerous Tin Snails you hear the soft whinny of Erik’s old horsey.

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