Brake Shoes

[Non MemberParticipant]

Hi Guys

Back again with another query!

Just removed my rear brake drums and was puzzled/shocked to see that the trailing shoe is only covered with lining over  half of its length .

First thought is that the make do previous owner had struck again, however I am sure I remember seeing this set up somewhere.

So tell me that this old fool is not going daft and that the shoes set up is correct !

Also the cylinders are marked Girling, if memory serves are these not related to the expensive Bendix system????

Cheers

Ken

 

[Larry LewisParticipant]

No, you are not daft! The trailing shoes in a Traction all have a half-lining. I’ve been told why but I don’t recall, exactly. I’m sure someone on here can explain it better than I can, but if you take them to a rebuilder, tell them to do it exactly like they are, do not put a full lining on those shoes. The original cylinders are Lockheed, it may be that your Girling cylinders were an aftermarket replacement. If they fit and work OK, I wouldn’t worry about it too much, but as long as the drums are off it would probably be a good idea to renew the rubber bits.

[Non MemberParticipant]

Cheers Larry…..Nice to know old age has not quite caught up yet !!!!

As for the cylinders, the only way you could remove the pistons is if you cut the cylinder body in half (in 55 years I never seen ones so badly corroded)

Any recommendations for replacements cylinder other than the club ?

Cheers

[Larry LewisParticipant]

try CTA in Holland or Jose Franssen in Belgium. But having said that, I would try to find original Lockheed cylinders and rebuild them as I put all new Jose Franssen cylinders on my Light 15 about 12 years ago and they lasted about 2 years. I had to replace them as they were corroded so badly they could not be reused. I found originals, redid them and they were fine after that. You can also have the cylinders resleeved in stainless, there’s a place in the USA that does it but I imagine there are places over there that can do it.

• This reply was modified 6 years, 7 months ago by Larry Lewis.

[Non MemberParticipant]

Sorry to bother again…..but I have noticed that  I appear to be a brake part missing or not??

There appears to be a small spring that fits on the brake shoe guide post (Jose Franssen page 29 part 441332)

Question is (A) Should I have these or are they only on certain models

(B) If I should have them, I assume two per shoe??

Ken

[Richard LarterParticipant]

Hi Ken

I have a 1949 Light 15 and small springs are fitted to all the posts. I have just overhauled the brakes and found a classic car specialist had fitted two short linings on one side at the rear and the long linings on the other side some 4 years ago. I did not notice a problem and the car came with an mot, so I wonder how necessary the short linings are. I have reassembled the brakes correctly.

Cheers Richard

[Non MemberParticipant]

Cheers Richard

Looks like I will be buying some springs.

Reading your tale of woe, I am sure the same mechanic serviced your car as did mine.?

Cheers  Ken

[Larry LewisParticipant]

Some cars have long posts and these get the springs and two washers with a split pin. These go with a thin washer against the brake shoe, then the spring then a thicker washer and then the split pin. Some have short posts, these get only the two washers and a split pin because the posts are not long enough for the spring. I’m not sure why that is, but I have run into both types.

[Non MemberParticipant]

Thanks Larry

All becomes clear now, maybe don’t need springs after all.

Cheers

Ken

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