Replacement engine options

[Anonymous]

Yesterday’s drive didn’t go as planned, and ended on a flatbed after something internal in the engine failed and started bouncing around. Obviously some exploratory digging is required to see what failed and what else it damaged, but I’m not hopeful. In the event I have to replace rather than rebuild, what options are directly interchangeable with a 1955 11D motor? I’m not looking to change the transmission, but I recall reading that early ID19 motors will also work.

@Larry – if you know of any candidates I’d appreciate hearing about them. Shipping within Canada and in CAD would be far better than other options.

[Anonymous]

Bruce as you have a 1955 Traction I assume that “1944 11D motor” is a typo.

[Anonymous]

Hi Bruce- It’s not a difficult conversion to use an early ID-19 engine, I will ask around and see who might have one.You might try info@2cvsource.com they’re in Washington state and I understand they might or know someone. Let me know how you get on.

[Anonymous]

@Den – you are correct, I meant 1955, not 1944

@larry – what is the cutoff year for the ID-19 motors. I recall reading 1963 or 64.

[Anonymous]

Not sure of the cut-off year but you want one without the rear balancer. It’s a bit more work to use it as the end of the crankshaft has to be cut off. I think 63 is the latest.

[Anonymous]

Bruce, sorry to hear you have engine problems. As far as I know there are still two abandoned Tractions in North Saanich on Vancouver Island. Not sure of the details but they may be worth a look? Check back to my post in Aug 2014. viewtopic.php?t=20 Some details and photos there. Also a contact name and website of the owner.
Peter

[Anonymous]

@Canada Traction wrote:

Bruce, sorry to hear you have engine problems. As far as I know there are still two abandoned Tractions in North Saanich on Vancouver Island. Not sure of the details but they may be worth a look? Check back to my post in Aug 2014. viewtopic.php?t=20 Some details and photos there. Also a contact name and website of the owner.
Peter

Thanks for the reminder Peter. I just gave him a call. This guy…I really don’t know what to say. He has the two cars and they are essentially complete, but he just likes to look at them rotting away, has no plans to ever get them going again, and has no interest in selling any of the parts. Who does this?

[Anonymous]

I’ve heard about that nut. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Almost makes me want to organize a commando-style raid/rescue mission. Almost.

[Anonymous]

Me too. I don’t understand that mindset. There is a guy here who has a really nice D. He made a film of driving it to his property in Collingwood and parking it in the woods. Under trees, on grass. He let it sit there for over 5 years for reasons that no one can figure out. Like it’s performance art or some such nonsense. He even filmed himself going to the drive through window at a Tim Horton’s and buying “one” Timbit. Who can figure this out? Not me. You may be able to find the film through the Citroenvie website if you want some nausea. Supposedly he is going to now have the car restored which it didn’t need before this rubbish.
But, tonight is our monthly meeting in Toronto, I will ask if anyone has an engine for you.

[Anonymous]

Can the oil pan be removed without pulling the motor?

[Anonymous]

It looks like it can. Do you know if your block is totally destroyed?

[Anonymous]

@bazessex wrote:

It looks like it can. Do you know if your block is totally destroyed?

I don’t, but that should be more obvious once I get a look inside. My mechanic’s shop is backed up with cars, so I figure that if I can remove the oil pan at my place that will at least give a decent look.

Even if it isn’t I’m still thinking my best bet for getting back on the road this summer would be to swap in a running block, then collect the required parts and rebuild mine through the year. Not many around here unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

Bruce
I have not met the Island Traction owner but he does have a bit of a reputation! I took the top and bottom off my car last year and replaced liners and pistons – and a couple of valves. Did not take engine out of car. The advice I got was that it is possible but very difficult to properly seal the oil pan. I did it – and so far no leaks. Fairly straightforward once you are in there and all parts are available from the usual suspects. Good luck. As an aside I met a friend of yours at the vintage car club monthly run in Victoria. Not good with names but he was in a red BMW 2002 I think.
Peter

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